Re: MANCHESTER UNITED :: THE RED DEVILS

RR22 Thu May 28, 2009 9:40 am

samdol wrote:testing

ni bob marley ke??
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**Deto_8** Thu May 28, 2009 10:02 am

mengharapkan game final yang best dan dramatik....tapi hampeh...juara dunia dan juara bolasepak moden kena titil 2 gol dok berbalas... Evil or Very Mad

J.Milan22 Thu May 28, 2009 11:00 am

Deto_8 wrote:mengharapkan game final yang best dan dramatik....tapi hampeh...juara dunia dan juara bolasepak moden kena titil 2 gol dok berbalas...

i no komen.......... Very Happy

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RR22 Thu May 28, 2009 1:08 pm

What United Lacked in the UCL Final

1. Strikers who score:

As a team.... Man Utd lack goals. Ronaldo is the only player who consistently scores goals for Manchester united at the moment. None of our strikers are prolific. Tevez is a fantastic player, but doesn't score a lot. Berbatov has been a big disappointment, no matter how many people bang on about his assists and all round play (Did we really pay £30mill for another player who is good at getting the ball to Ronaldo?) Rooney is a fantastic footballer all round, but he really doesn't score consistently. Not since Van Nistelrooy have we had a striker who you just knew would score almost every game. And we really, really lack one. Ferguson tried to sign Torres for years, and unfortunately when he got fed up of chasing him, Liverpool took the gamble. Look at Eto'o - 1 chance, 1 goal. A lethal finisher that United just don't have. Benzema from Lyon anyone?

2. Several Creative Players:

Barcelona - Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Henry (They even SOLD Ronaldinho) Their team is brimming with brilliance. Their attacks are filled with flicks, step overs, backheels, and chips. Ronaldo is the only player for united who fits that bill. Scholes used to be the man, but he is now too old. Carrick constantly attempts audacious passes, which work extremely well against weak opposition, but against a team like Barcelona.... it just gives them possession of the ball 9 times out of 10, and then United had to run around like madmen for 10 minutes to get the ball back. He really needed to play it simple in the final, but he lacked a plan B. Park, who I have a lot of time for, works all day, but never ever looks like scoring.... To the point that when he does score EVERYONE is surprised. Anderson is a quality young player who is strong in possession, but again, he cant buy a goal, and has not been providing that many assists either. Fletcher can tackle, and he can harass, but nothing else - While I respect him as a footballer - I subscribe to the Barcelona viewpoint, you shouldn't need to have a player who stops other teams from playing, you should have players who can OUTPLAY the other team, just like Barcelona did so effectively in the final. Giggs has been good this season, but in my humble opinion - and I will take some heat for this - he either plays really well, or like a ghost that you wouldn't even know was on the pitch. Unfortunately for us it was Giggs the ghost that turned up against Barcelona.

3. Have United spent wisely over the past few years?:

This is a touchy topic. People tend to get offended if Fergie's transfers are analysed. He has made some master moves, some big mistakes, some yet to be proven, and some average transfers. Here's my view - Please note the grade represents the transfer deal, not the player - Feel free to hate me for my opinion:

A+ Ronaldo - Absolute genius and a bargain

A+ Vidic - Again an absolute find. Wonderful

C- Tevez - Should have bought him outright for a cheaper fee instead of this mess

D Berbatov - £30mill.... £30M POUNDS. I won't say how I really feel. Imagine the players you can get for 30mill (Torres £23)

D Hargreaves - Unlucky with injuries, but he was never going to set the world alight - Too Expensive

C+ Anderson - Good buy, but yet to truly excel - Expensive

D- Nani - I can see why he looked like a good buy, but he is all flair and no substance - Expensive

B Da Silva twins - Look like a good pair for the future - Cheap!

B- Carrick - Decent buy, but £18 mill is a bit steep

FAIL Lets not forget - Kleberson, Bellion, Djemba-Djemba, Howard, Veron, Smith, Forlan,

OLD Grades: A+ Ferdinand / A- Rooney / A+ Evra / (These were years ago and don't count)

All in all I think that Fergie should be given great praise for being a wonderful manager, but not for being wonderful in the transfer market. He has done well, and he has done poorly.... All in all he would say he has been ok when you balance out the Djemba-Djemba's with the Ronaldo's? Is that fair?

Compared to the Barcelona, or Ac Milan, Man Utd's transfer dealings haven't been as shrewd.

4. Too Many Similar Players

Rooney, Park, and Tevez - Lots of running - Not a lot of goals
Fletcher and Anderson - Lots of strength - Not a lot else
Berbatov and Carrick - Wonderful control and vision - Not a lot of goals
Giggs and Scholes - Old, but useful
Vidic and Ferdinand - Legends! No problem having similar players if they are this good!

This is why Man Utd won the premiership, lots of quality in depth, but not a lot of variety. Everyone was talking about the strength of Man Utds bench during the premiership games, and it was truly high. Against Barcelona, did you get excited and think that either Tevez or Berbatov would score when they came on..... Like Sheringham or Solskjer 10 years ago! No...... Me neither.
Before the match the pundits were saying that they picked Man Utd to win because they had a plan B and could win the game with a number of different playing styles. The truth is that if united have time on the ball to pass it around, and if Ronaldo is able to get into the game, were golden - If not...... There is no plan B against strong opposition.

5. Ferguson's Tactics

Here is where I will really get hung out to dry. I think Ferguson is a tactical genius, but I think he got it wrong for the final.

Park - Had 2 early opportunities to score and messed them both up - Had a terrible game
My Alternative - Put Tevez, who may get you a goal, on from the start and Ronaldo on the wing (allowing Ronny to get into the game and run at Barca) Tevez will do all the work Park would, and he can actually shoot!

Giggs - Played no part in the game and looked lost - Another player who had a Terrible game
My Alternative - Drop Giggs - Keep Rooney on the left, Start Scholes, who is very creative in midfield - sub him later when he is tired

Carrick - His passing was awful - Had a really, really terrible game
My ADVICE - Stop trying crazy passes!!!! Just keep possession of the ball and work your opportunities!

Ronaldo - Started well, but was lost up front on his own.
My ADVICE - Start on the wing, run at Barca, and drop back deep to get possession if you are not getting into the game. Link up with Tevez and Swap sides with Rooney if you are getting no joy on the right.

All this is easy to say in hindsight, but these would have been my tactics even before the game went wrong. Ferguson's a legend, and I am nothing but a piece of Roy Keane blown snot compared to him, but I can still give my opinion.... And my opinion is that he got this one very wrong.

5. A Will To Fight

ROY KEANE.... ROY KEANE!!!! I missed you tonight. Who pushed united forward when they were 1 down? No one. Who encouraged them to keep trying after the 2nd goal. No one. United lacked fight and character.

juz nk share..
sbb sama dgn dgn my opinion..
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credit to molumba..

J.Milan22 Thu May 28, 2009 1:46 pm

MANCHESTER UNITED :: THE RED DEVILS - Page 8 1204531255-soccer-uefa-champions-league-final-barcelona-v-manchester-united-stadio

Barcelona's Lionel Messi (right) battles his way past Manchester United's Michael Carrick (2nd right), Oliveira Anderson (centre) and Ji-Sung Park

apens7 Mon Jun 01, 2009 6:56 pm

RR22 wrote:
D Berbatov - £30mill.... £30M POUNDS. I won't say how I really feel. Imagine the players you can get for 30mill (Torres £23)

- haha.. who knows we have talented young players like Wellback, Gibson and Macheda... Early of this season, Ferguson desprately bought this striker from Spurs. Spurs took this advantage when they priced Berba at GBP 30 mil... huhuhu

B Da Silva twins - Look like a good pair for the future - Cheap!

- Very well appearance from both in their 1st season, especially Rafael....

5. A Will To Fight

ROY KEANE.... ROY KEANE!!!! I missed you tonight. Who pushed united forward when they were 1 down? No one. Who encouraged them to keep trying after the 2nd goal. No one. United lacked fight and character.

AGREED!!! no body build up the spirits again.... even player like Giggs, Rio or Rooney....

juz nk share..
sbb sama dgn dgn my opinion..
copy from man utd messageboard..
credit to molumba..

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